Comments on: Top Reasons not to get the 3G iPhone http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:04:18 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eytan http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Eytan Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:21:37 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-123 Yeah, the battery pretty much sucks. Can't wait for the fastmac unit.... Yeah, the battery pretty much sucks. Can’t wait for the fastmac unit….

]]> By: admin http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-121 admin Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:51:14 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-121 I have the iPhone and it OFTEN won't last the whole day if I surf or use the GPS. If i had a battery I could swap would be very nice ! I have the iPhone and it OFTEN won’t last the whole day if I surf or use the GPS. If i had a battery I could swap would be very nice !

]]> By: Me http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-120 Me Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:10:38 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-120 Let's get real about the battery not being user replaceable. I have owned various cell phones for over 8 years now and not one time did I ever buy an extra battery to carry around as a spare. I have never had to buy a battery to replace the original battery in cell phone. You are really reaching with your so called opinion about what is wrong with the iPhone. You must be a hater. Let’s get real about the battery not being user replaceable.

I have owned various cell phones for over 8 years now and not one time did I ever buy an extra battery to carry around as a spare. I have never had to buy a battery to replace the original battery in cell phone.

You are really reaching with your so called opinion about what is wrong with the iPhone.

You must be a hater.

]]> By: Eytan http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-119 Eytan Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:35:02 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-119 Just to note - they increased the size of the lens slightly with the new iPhone, and I notice a DRAMATIC quality improvement on the images. In all my reading about CCD tech, lenses, and MP, I have read that the quality improvement I would see in a 5 MP camera on a phone is not that dramatic. That said, would I like 5 MP? You betchya.... Oh, and my 1st digital camera, the 1st one I bought? it was 2 MP...... Just to note – they increased the size of the lens slightly with the new iPhone, and I notice a DRAMATIC quality improvement on the images. In all my reading about CCD tech, lenses, and MP, I have read that the quality improvement I would see in a 5 MP camera on a phone is not that dramatic.
That said, would I like 5 MP? You betchya….
Oh, and my 1st digital camera, the 1st one I bought? it was 2 MP……

]]> By: admin http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-118 admin Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:30:12 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-118 All-in-All I am very happy with my iPhone as well. I wouldn't downgrade back to my Nokia N95 since when I need to take pictures I bring my Canon 40D or at least my PowerShot SD700. This said the Nokia N95 will deliver acceptable quality on that unexpected shot while the iPhone is just plain disappointing. Of course my 1st interest when getting the iPhone was to merge the iPod experience with a phone (and internet) and not a get the best Camphone. Still I truly believe they didn't put the 5MP to have something worth while to upgrade next year. All-in-All I am very happy with my iPhone as well. I wouldn’t downgrade back to my Nokia N95 since when I need to take pictures I bring my Canon 40D or at least my PowerShot SD700. This said the Nokia N95 will deliver acceptable quality on that unexpected shot while the iPhone is just plain disappointing. Of course my 1st interest when getting the iPhone was to merge the iPod experience with a phone (and internet) and not a get the best Camphone. Still I truly believe they didn’t put the 5MP to have something worth while to upgrade next year.

]]> By: Eytan http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Eytan Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:10:06 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-117 Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly about the size - but I don't think the iPhone could ever replace my iPod for music storage - because I always want more (I am a long time taper and music enthusiast). I find I use my iPod when I go out of town on trips, or road trips - and the iPhone would never store enough for me (160 GB is not enough for me either). The 16 GB (a worthy upgrade for me) was a compromise for how I DO use it - the bus to and from work, while listening to Podcasts. Going out on a Saturday night in my car or without and just wanting to listen to stuff. Entertainment value. Same goes for the camera - heck, a phone 5 MP camera would never do it for me either. When I want to take pictures, I have a real camera with a real lens, not a 2 mm lens that phone cameras have. Just because it is 5 MP, or even 7.2 does not really matter much when your lens is 2 mm in size and the depth of the phone only allows for minimal quality with ANY phone, regardless of the number of MP. Look, the iPhone is not perfect, I will agree with you. But compromises need to be made in media features (camera, amount of audio, etc). In those places, I think Apple made the right choices. As I said - give me MMS (or at least make the link to viewmymessages.com a little more useful by making it a live link that SHOWS you your MMS) and a lot of other things I would like, but yes - Apple, in my opinion, has made a good compromise between what is needed and what is not for a phone. And with my ability to sell my old phone for the EXACT AMOUNT that a new, twice as large phone cost means I made the transition with no hit to my pocket book (when I purchased it, I found out that my company once again gets a discount on rates via iPhone plans which they did not last year, so my rate has not gone up). For me, if I can resell the old one each year, unlocked, for the same price as a new phone, I will do it and not complain... Oh, BTW, I debated buying the Apple Care on the last phone, but let it expire 11 days before the purchase of my new phone - so my new phone now has a year warranty. All in all, if that is what I do each year - upgrade for no cost and get a new warranty and twice the storage, I WILL buy a new one each year... Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly about the size – but I don’t think the iPhone could ever replace my iPod for music storage – because I always want more (I am a long time taper and music enthusiast). I find I use my iPod when I go out of town on trips, or road trips – and the iPhone would never store enough for me (160 GB is not enough for me either). The 16 GB (a worthy upgrade for me) was a compromise for how I DO use it – the bus to and from work, while listening to Podcasts. Going out on a Saturday night in my car or without and just wanting to listen to stuff. Entertainment value.
Same goes for the camera – heck, a phone 5 MP camera would never do it for me either. When I want to take pictures, I have a real camera with a real lens, not a 2 mm lens that phone cameras have. Just because it is 5 MP, or even 7.2 does not really matter much when your lens is 2 mm in size and the depth of the phone only allows for minimal quality with ANY phone, regardless of the number of MP.

Look, the iPhone is not perfect, I will agree with you. But compromises need to be made in media features (camera, amount of audio, etc). In those places, I think Apple made the right choices. As I said – give me MMS (or at least make the link to viewmymessages.com a little more useful by making it a live link that SHOWS you your MMS) and a lot of other things I would like, but yes – Apple, in my opinion, has made a good compromise between what is needed and what is not for a phone. And with my ability to sell my old phone for the EXACT AMOUNT that a new, twice as large phone cost means I made the transition with no hit to my pocket book (when I purchased it, I found out that my company once again gets a discount on rates via iPhone plans which they did not last year, so my rate has not gone up).
For me, if I can resell the old one each year, unlocked, for the same price as a new phone, I will do it and not complain…

Oh, BTW, I debated buying the Apple Care on the last phone, but let it expire 11 days before the purchase of my new phone – so my new phone now has a year warranty. All in all, if that is what I do each year – upgrade for no cost and get a new warranty and twice the storage, I WILL buy a new one each year…

]]> By: admin http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-116 admin Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:56:02 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-116 Eytan, I have my 1st iPhone in Feb 2007 when the 16GB version came out. Coming from a 60GB iPhone that's the very minimum I could downgrade in size to. Now why didn't they put out a 32GB iPhone now? Because they want you to buy a new one again in Feb next year when they release an upgraded version. Why didn't they put a 5MP pixel camera in it (like my old Nokia N95 from 2006) which seems what other models offer today? Because they 6 months after the 32GB version is out they will want you to buy the V3 with it. I am neither a iPhone hater or Mac Fanboy. Strangely enough I've hardly had any reactions when I posted favorably about it.. Eytan,

I have my 1st iPhone in Feb 2007 when the 16GB version came out. Coming from a 60GB iPhone that’s the very minimum I could downgrade in size to. Now why didn’t they put out a 32GB iPhone now? Because they want you to buy a new one again in Feb next year when they release an upgraded version. Why didn’t they put a 5MP pixel camera in it (like my old Nokia N95 from 2006) which seems what other models offer today? Because they 6 months after the 32GB version is out they will want you to buy the V3 with it.

I am neither a iPhone hater or Mac Fanboy. Strangely enough I’ve hardly had any reactions when I posted favorably about it..

]]> By: Eytan http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-115 Eytan Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:32:02 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-115 Oh, and the new iPhone, while still not containing a "User Replaceable" battery, now has screws to get it open and the battery is not soldered - looks like it will be easier for an end user to replace the battery on this than it was on any ipod (and I have done that for a friend's iPod). With the guides available on the web, for me to replace the battery in 2 years time for $15 does not seem bad at all.... ($15 is the price of many after market batteries for the current iPhone - although replacing on those requires a VERY scary opening of the 1st gen iPhone and even more scary soldering [or splicing] of wires...) I had the 1st gen iPhone for a full year and 10 days (bought 1st day, sold the night before the 3G came out for $300!!!) and my battery life was still excellent when I sold it. It was used everyday and the battery was at 90-100% capacity when I sold it... Lastly, I have one of these on order for my iPhone 3G for when they come out: http://fastmac.com/iv.php That will alleviate for me any battery worries or problems.... Oh, and the new iPhone, while still not containing a “User Replaceable” battery, now has screws to get it open and the battery is not soldered – looks like it will be easier for an end user to replace the battery on this than it was on any ipod (and I have done that for a friend’s iPod). With the guides available on the web, for me to replace the battery in 2 years time for $15 does not seem bad at all…. ($15 is the price of many after market batteries for the current iPhone – although replacing on those requires a VERY scary opening of the 1st gen iPhone and even more scary soldering [or splicing] of wires…) I had the 1st gen iPhone for a full year and 10 days (bought 1st day, sold the night before the 3G came out for $300!!!) and my battery life was still excellent when I sold it. It was used everyday and the battery was at 90-100% capacity when I sold it…

Lastly, I have one of these on order for my iPhone 3G for when they come out:
http://fastmac.com/iv.php
That will alleviate for me any battery worries or problems….

]]> By: Eytan http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Eytan Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:20:08 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-114 You can't have your cake and eat it too... If you are discussing unlocked prices, you cannot complain about provider (and you shoud compare it to other unlocked 3G phones). If you go with the provider you are complaining about, you get the price you are not complaining about. All in all, you don't have one, I don't even know if you played with one, you just want to gripe about it. I own one, and have plenty of gripes - chief among them is no copy/paste, minimal quality SMS, etc. Your rant would be much more credible if it did not seem like you were a knee jerk iPhone hater You can’t have your cake and eat it too… If you are discussing unlocked prices, you cannot complain about provider (and you shoud compare it to other unlocked 3G phones). If you go with the provider you are complaining about, you get the price you are not complaining about. All in all, you don’t have one, I don’t even know if you played with one, you just want to gripe about it. I own one, and have plenty of gripes – chief among them is no copy/paste, minimal quality SMS, etc.
Your rant would be much more credible if it did not seem like you were a knee jerk iPhone hater

]]> By: PV http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/2008/07/19/top-reasons-not-to-get-the-3g-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-113 PV Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:26:23 +0000 http://www.smartphonesoftoday.com/?p=194#comment-113 OK Ken, I'm not an expert on the "worldwide" price, but state that in your article. That what good reporters do. You managed to change your original mistake in stating that there were three iPhone models, but you should have acknowledged that in your reply to me and to the other readers. That's what good reporters do. And this last point may help the most: find an editor. OK Ken, I’m not an expert on the “worldwide” price, but state that in your article. That what good reporters do. You managed to change your original mistake in stating that there were three iPhone models, but you should have acknowledged that in your reply to me and to the other readers. That’s what good reporters do. And this last point may help the most: find an editor.

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